What Else When We Die?

As I keep reading and studying, I am reminded that when we die, we are not just “there”. We are not lifeless and without form. So it stands to reason that we are not lacking consciousness either.

9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. 10They cried out with a loud voice, ‘O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?’ 11Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.” – Revelation 6:9-11 (ESV)

Randy Alcorn pointed out the above passage in the MasterWork study I am working in. Here we find that those who were martyred for their faith, are waiting for the return of Christ. In their waiting, they are speaking with Him, recognizing His sovereignty, questioning Him to understand, and comforted in their waiting. All of these indicate that when we die and meet Christ in the intermediate Heaven, we are still who we are and that we conscious, and continuing to learn and work to understand.

When you look at the verses above and I mean really look at them, you not only see the consciousness and learning, but you also see the anticipation and to some degree, sorrow in the waiting for it all to be over. But how can that be if there is no more sorrow in Heaven. Well, that removal of sorrow is in the New Heaven and not the intermediate or present Heaven we go to in death. The New Heaven, New Earth is the place of eternal glory for all. We may not experience and personal suffering any longer in the intermediate Heaven, but we will still experience sorrow for those who have yet to join us and are still being persecuted on Earth.

So, here is what I know about Heaven when I die and what I am looking forward to. I will pass from the suffering in this world. I will no longer be under attack by the evil one. I will be with my LORD and Savior, Jesus Christ. I will be there worshiping and waiting on His return and reunited with my body. I will have a form of some kind and be distinguishable from others. I will be conscious to learn and understand. I will still experience sorrow for those who are still suffering. I will be anticipating the time when we will all be together again in Glory of eternal Heaven and the New Earth when it comes down after the battle has been won.

How are you seeing yourself in Heaven after you pass from this world? Are you just a lifeless being? How about this, you have a body, a mind, a soul, and are still learning and waiting for the suffering of others to end and the return of our LORD and Savior, Jesus Christ?

Heaven Today

I was taken aback a bit this morning in my study of Heaven. I am 54 years old and I guess I have not studied Heaven as I should. I have accepted that as a Christian Heaven is my final destination. I have accepted that it will be glorious and wonderful. But I have not really dug into that there is a Heaven today and a Heaven tomorrow.

In my study in MasterLife with Randy Alcorn’s writing, I am taken to dig into the “present Heaven” as he describes. That place where Christians go when they die, until the second coming of Christ. Yes, you read that right, we go to a sort of waiting room until the time when Christ comes again and we join the battle.

1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.” – Revelation 21:1 (ESV)

John describes the “New Heaven”. The New Heaven comes later, after the coming of Christ, not in today. The New Heaven will come after the battle has been won. Notice the first word of the verse above, “then”. This indicates that that events come before. Now, yes in Revelation, John is describing things in an order that he sees them, yet, that order is important. The New Heaven is described after the battle is won and after he has seen the and describes the throne of judgment. So, the New Heaven comes after and is not for the now or today.

Now, I know, as did for me, that this brings up a lot of questions around the what exactly is the Heaven Today. Well, I, at this point am not able to give the full answer to that, only to say that we won’t be there long. Yes, some passed from this world years, decades, or centuries ago. So, when I say we won’t be there long, it is hard to understand. But we also have to remember that God’s Time is vastly different than our concept of time.

In the real life account book/movie “Heaven is for Real”, Colton Burpo was very near death in this world for a short time and saw Heaven. Now what he saw is not the purpose of my reference, but the time is where I am looking as it did help me to better understand God’s Time a bit. What Colton describes is interactions and events that took well more than the short time accounted for in this world. Yet, he met and interacted with many and those would have certainly taken more time. The time we experience in this world is nothing compared to time in the world of our LORD.

17Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.” – 1 Thessalonians 4:17 (ESV)

Paul uses the same word as John to describe what happens next, “then”. He writes that after the bodies of the dead have gone up, those left will meet them to join the battle. That “then” is virtually instantaneous, but just after. So Paul is telling us that those who have passed from this world are waiting to be reunited with their bodies and then with those of us still in this world. Then we will join the battle in the defeat of Satan and will then enter into the New Heaven as John describes in Revelation.

There is so much more to know and understand, but I know this, those who have died in this world are waiting to join up again with those of us still here when Christ comes again. We will all fight, and win over Satan, and leave today’s Heaven and enter the New Heaven.

What is your thought on Heaven today? Were you of the thought that when passing from this world, we move right into the glory that is the New Heaven? What if you were to think of Heaven today as the before the battle and defeat of Satan and afterward, we enter the New Heaven?